Food growing at individual and community level - Sustainable Hackney2024-03-28T15:36:53Zhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/forum/topics/food-growing-at-individual-and-community-level?commentId=6446498%3AComment%3A10788&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi there, whoever it is behin…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-15:6446498:Comment:111542012-05-15T10:28:27.209ZDiana Weirhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/DIANAWEIR
<p>Hi there, whoever it is behind the collective name!</p>
<p>Thanks for this. I very much hope that the request made for us to help with the pocket park has now become integrated with Alex Collings's more advanced campaign to achieve something very similar, on behalf of the TRA which she co-chairs on the other side of Somerford Grove, but the Council estate and potential future requests may well need such help.</p>
<p>Patchwork Farm, I first heard of the other day when you were asking for not…</p>
<p>Hi there, whoever it is behind the collective name!</p>
<p>Thanks for this. I very much hope that the request made for us to help with the pocket park has now become integrated with Alex Collings's more advanced campaign to achieve something very similar, on behalf of the TRA which she co-chairs on the other side of Somerford Grove, but the Council estate and potential future requests may well need such help.</p>
<p>Patchwork Farm, I first heard of the other day when you were asking for not only part of our modern vicarage's still-enormous residual garden but for another 10 x 15m (or bigger) space around De Beauvoir. Everyone helpfully copied me in on that - such joined-up thinking! - but I have no helpful ideas about where to find one yet, I'm afraid. We tend to make full use of our own gardens, round my way at least - and few private gardens are as big as your minimum ask, anyway.</p>
<p>If you are interested in using bits of our various Council estates for this, then the De Beauvoir Association might be able to give you some contact names. I've been in touch with Cherie Joseph at Hackney Homes, who's trying to co-ordinate Council estate growing groups, and De Beauvoir appears to be a gap in her database so far - so ask the universally -knowledgeable Paul Bolding for the DBA's current Council estate contacts.</p>
<p>Do tell me where you find your further space down my way, when you achieve that - and get any estate people you work with to complete Cherie's standard estate growing group consent form (of which I attach a copy), so that it's all done by the book and no-one upsets their estate grounds maintenance manager.</p>
<p>All the best with your efforts,</p>
<p>DIANA</p>
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<p></p> Hi Diana -- the Master Garden…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-10:6446498:Comment:112282012-05-10T15:58:47.591ZGrowing Communitieshttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/GrowingCommunities
<p>Hi Diana -- the Master Gardeners network is an obvious source of free gardening advice. They are training a new lot shortly, and these trainees will probably be keen to take on households.</p>
<p>I can also email you some information about Growing Communities' Patchwork Farm project (which I coordinate). </p>
<p>Hi Diana -- the Master Gardeners network is an obvious source of free gardening advice. They are training a new lot shortly, and these trainees will probably be keen to take on households.</p>
<p>I can also email you some information about Growing Communities' Patchwork Farm project (which I coordinate). </p> Thanks, Martina.
More for me…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-09:6446498:Comment:111262012-05-09T15:02:01.864ZDiana Weirhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/DIANAWEIR
<p>Thanks, Martina.</p>
<p>More for me to chew over when time permits ie after Chelsea Fringe starts in 10 days' time.</p>
<p>Thanks, Martina.</p>
<p>More for me to chew over when time permits ie after Chelsea Fringe starts in 10 days' time.</p> This sounds interesting – mig…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-08:6446498:Comment:108952012-05-08T14:18:35.915ZMartina Dhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/MartinaDervis
<div style="padding: 6px 10px 0px; border-bottom: 1px solid #e5e3e3; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% #f7f7f7; margin-bottom: 10px;"><p>This sounds interesting – might go and have a look when I have a minute tomorrow. I wish we had somebody who’s retired to help us with our garden... Mosaic have quite a lot of property in the area -- might be worth getting in touch with them.</p>
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<div style="padding: 6px 10px 0px; border-bottom: 1px solid #e5e3e3; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% #f7f7f7; margin-bottom: 10px;"><p>This sounds interesting – might go and have a look when I have a minute tomorrow. I wish we had somebody who’s retired to help us with our garden... Mosaic have quite a lot of property in the area -- might be worth getting in touch with them.</p>
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<div style="padding: 0px 10px 10px; margin-top: 5px; border-bottom: 1px dotted #cccccc;">The garden was started by one of the retired tenants, who when he looked out of his window, all he could see was the dustbin area, parked cars and a bit of lawn. He then decided he was going to plant some flowers in the area he could see outside of his window. It looked so nice that myself and another tenant decided to join him and do the entire area at the back of the flats. We have created a garden, consisting of flowers and vegetables. We have also created an area where the tenants can have a barbeque if they so wish. The building consists of twenty flats and now, because of the garden, it brings us all closer together as a community. It has created a wonderful ambiance which has meant the tenants now enjoy coming out to the back area of the flats to view the lovely plants.</div>
<p><span class="green"><b>Run by:</b></span> part of family mosaic estates<br/><span class="orange"><b>Address:</b></span> 154 and 158 Bethune Road, Hackney, N16 5DS</p> Hackney Planning Watch fb htt…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-08:6446498:Comment:111222012-05-08T13:47:13.269ZMartina Dhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/MartinaDervis
<p>Hackney Planning Watch fb <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/186068201429121/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/186068201429121/</a></p>
<p>As for Stamford Hill Estate, the contact person named on the board is sara.ghandi@groundwork.org.uk It's a collaboration with Vacant Lot <a href="https://www.facebook.com/VACANT.LOT.friends" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/VACANT.LOT.friends</a></p>
<p>Last time I went passed they hadn't filled the planters yet and there…</p>
<p>Hackney Planning Watch fb <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/186068201429121/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/186068201429121/</a></p>
<p>As for Stamford Hill Estate, the contact person named on the board is sara.ghandi@groundwork.org.uk It's a collaboration with Vacant Lot <a href="https://www.facebook.com/VACANT.LOT.friends" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/VACANT.LOT.friends</a></p>
<p>Last time I went passed they hadn't filled the planters yet and there was a huge mountain of soil!</p>
<p>Btw, the reason for lack of enthusiasm for gardening in some quarters here is quite simple: lack of time (very large families), lack of suitable space (many people rent from private landlords), high turnover of renters.</p> Thanks for those illuminating…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-08:6446498:Comment:111212012-05-08T13:17:11.594ZDiana Weirhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/DIANAWEIR
<p>Thanks for those illuminating remarks. (Sorry to see that orthodoxy in SH seems to pre-empt gardening for some strange reason - I had wondered earlier if that could possibly be what you meant - but there's no pleasing some folks, so probably best not to dwell on that.)</p>
<p>I've written to CAAG and also - although without much expectation of results - to HPW, in its virtually unused Wordpress blog form. I didn't find their Facebook group though - singular lack of any forward link from the…</p>
<p>Thanks for those illuminating remarks. (Sorry to see that orthodoxy in SH seems to pre-empt gardening for some strange reason - I had wondered earlier if that could possibly be what you meant - but there's no pleasing some folks, so probably best not to dwell on that.)</p>
<p>I've written to CAAG and also - although without much expectation of results - to HPW, in its virtually unused Wordpress blog form. I didn't find their Facebook group though - singular lack of any forward link from the old and now archival-only blog address you had.</p>
<p>If there are new estate gardening groups on local estates up your way, I wonder if they're on the Hackney Homes radar. I was asked by Cherie Joseph at HH to look out for such groups because her list is far from complete and she wants to get groups going everywhere that HH manages. Do you have contacts within the estates you mentioned or have you just been observing from walking nearby?</p>
<p>Looked up campbellworks and will try to drop them a line too - for all I know, they'll turn out to be involved in Chelsea Fringe themselves already!</p> I haven't been there for a wh…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-08:6446498:Comment:112142012-05-08T10:44:56.075ZMartina Dhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/MartinaDervis
<p>I haven't been there for a while but they used to have quite a few garden enthusiasts as well: <a href="http://www.campbellworks.org/content/about" target="_blank">http://www.campbellworks.org/content/about</a></p>
<p>I haven't been there for a while but they used to have quite a few garden enthusiasts as well: <a href="http://www.campbellworks.org/content/about" target="_blank">http://www.campbellworks.org/content/about</a></p> I am not aware of any Stamfor…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-08:6446498:Comment:110832012-05-08T10:33:59.555ZMartina Dhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/MartinaDervis
<p>I am not aware of any Stamford Hill wide newsletter. But it might be worth getting in touch with the Cazenove Area action group <a href="http://www.clubplan.org/CMS/page.asp?org=1517&name=Home" target="_blank">http://www.clubplan.org/CMS/page.asp?org=1517&name=Home</a> and Hackney Planning Watch <a href="http://hackneyplanningwatch.blogspot.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://hackneyplanningwatch.blogspot.co.uk/</a> (they also have a fb group) because there are a few Stamford Hill people…</p>
<p>I am not aware of any Stamford Hill wide newsletter. But it might be worth getting in touch with the Cazenove Area action group <a href="http://www.clubplan.org/CMS/page.asp?org=1517&name=Home" target="_blank">http://www.clubplan.org/CMS/page.asp?org=1517&name=Home</a> and Hackney Planning Watch <a href="http://hackneyplanningwatch.blogspot.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://hackneyplanningwatch.blogspot.co.uk/</a> (they also have a fb group) because there are a few Stamford Hill people with gardens in these groups. Most of my immediate area is rented flats, with a very high turnover of people, and a strong orthodox Jewish population. (Most of them won't do any gardening but that's a long story). There are few things going on on estates, e.g. on Stamford Hill Estate but a lot of these projects are new and I haven't seen much activity yet which is not surprising in this weather!</p> Thanks, Martina.
I don't know…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-08:6446498:Comment:107912012-05-08T09:58:36.882ZDiana Weirhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/DIANAWEIR
<p>Thanks, Martina.</p>
<p>I don't know about Stamford Hill not being the "centre of the action" - if that's so, it's only because we haven't managed to attract local attention sufficiently! I got a notice out to the Claptonite the other day and made a non-area specific version for the Shoreditch Sisters yesterday so, if you have a local e-newsletter around SH that I could send it to also, then do let me know how to do that.</p>
<p>We already have people involved as far north as Somerford Grove…</p>
<p>Thanks, Martina.</p>
<p>I don't know about Stamford Hill not being the "centre of the action" - if that's so, it's only because we haven't managed to attract local attention sufficiently! I got a notice out to the Claptonite the other day and made a non-area specific version for the Shoreditch Sisters yesterday so, if you have a local e-newsletter around SH that I could send it to also, then do let me know how to do that.</p>
<p>We already have people involved as far north as Somerford Grove who need all the expertise they can get - they're tackling an entire pocket park - but I haven't yet got them to say if they want to do fruit and veg in containers on the tarmacked part of that and we're also awaiting permission from Hackney Homes, which manages the whole area - but, as HH are already very keen on community growing groups on their estates, that shouldn't be too much of a problem (I hope).</p> I know everything about volon…tag:sustainablehackney.org.uk,2012-05-07:6446498:Comment:108932012-05-07T22:37:22.511ZMartina Dhttps://sustainablehackney.org.uk/profile/MartinaDervis
<p>I know everything about volontary projects taking over one's life! The trouble with horticulture is that a lot of people don't realise how much work it is (it all looks so easy on TV!), and there is only so much one can achieve with volontary work only, especially when the weather is crap. I don't know how many questions you've had so far, and I can't promise I can handle every enquiry you might get, but if you give me some idea of the nature of the question I could tell you whether I would…</p>
<p>I know everything about volontary projects taking over one's life! The trouble with horticulture is that a lot of people don't realise how much work it is (it all looks so easy on TV!), and there is only so much one can achieve with volontary work only, especially when the weather is crap. I don't know how many questions you've had so far, and I can't promise I can handle every enquiry you might get, but if you give me some idea of the nature of the question I could tell you whether I would be able to help or not. Some things are easy: If somebody asks (as I overheard the other day): 'Why have my beans died?', you obviously don't need to ask any further questions or see the plants -- if they've been planted outside in this weather, the answer is 'because you planted them out too early'. But if it's 'why are the leaves of my tomato plants mottled?' it gets a lot more complicated! Btw, I'm in Stamford Hill, which is not where I imagine the centre of the action will be, but if somebody reasonably local needs some advice that involves popping over, I might be able to do this within reason if it doesn't happen too often! I'll see whether I can gather a few more people -- maybe we could set up some kind of CF trouble shooting group...</p>